We are in immediate need of a pet stylist who is interested in the care of the pet first and foremost; but also understands that the quality of the work you do is very important.

At Dogma, we ask only that you do your very best, and that you never compromise on safety or the well-being of the dog or cat that you groom. We are an appointment only grooming salon with a very busy retail store that brings in new customers every day. Currently, we are booked out for over a month, at our second, much smaller location, we are booked out three weeks.

We need a groomer at both our Reston, VA location and one (or more) at our Arlington location. Part time is fine, full time preferred. You do not need to work every Saturday or Sunday - we are fine with every other weekend so you can live your life. We are open 7 days a week, and grooming is from 7am to 8pm so you can come in when it works for your schedule. We have some groomers starting late, and some that like to be in really early and get out.

This is a W-2 position with health insurance available. Most of our groomers make well over $45 per hour. If you schedule your day right, you can make over $100,000 per year like one of our groomers does every year.

We are not a perfect grooming salon - we don't have all the fancy bells and whistles, but our team works well together, they support each other and they want another team member. Someone who cares. Email us at shirlington@dogmabakery.com if you are that team member.  6/24/20

Hiring part time mobile groomer. 2-4 days a week. Weekends are the must. Work part -time to make the amount of a full time groomer! The position has a potential for a full time in the future. Our current groomers make from $300 to $450 per day plus tips depending on the hours they want to work. Your salary really depends on how quick and skilled you are and how many hours you are willing to work. We have a great team of awesome 3 groomers but we are so busy that we need help. We have a very thorough safety protocol in place to ensure health and safety of our staff, clients and the dogs. An ideal candidate must have solid pet grooming skills, friendly personality and positive attitude, must be able to do 5-7 dogs per day, must have clean driving records and comfortable driving big van. Pre-employment drug test is required. For details please text or email to vippetsalon@gmail.com 703-586-5976   6/12/20

We are looking for an experienced groomer to come join our team!

Requirements:

A minimum of 3 years of professional grooming experience
Own all of your tools and they must be in excellent working condition
Self sufficient
Reliable transportation

We are a "gentle-touch" grooming salon. Patience and care is an absolute must. We have a strict policy of practicing methods to help reduce stress and anxiety. Professional bathers are on staff to help ease your workload.

Full-time or Part- time position is available. Our salon is open Tuesday-Saturday (Saturdays are mandatory) . Commission is 50% and you also receive tips.

Please email or upload your resume with references. Resume MUST have relevant grooming experience. Qualified candidates will be asked to complete a working interview before hiring. You must be ready to groom with your own tools.

We look forward to speaking with you!
Job Types: Full-time, Part-time
Salary: $40,000.00 to $70,000.00 /year
hairysit22310@yahoo.com   5/4/20

Full time Stylist needed in Suffolk, VA. Private salon with excellent reputation for great grooms and great service. Five day work week, no weekends unless you prefer to work weekends. Paid vacation and sick days. We are not a stressful shop that pushes to get a large number of dogs groomed daily. Work at a pace that is comfortable for you and keeps stress to a minimum. Also our grooming prices are on the higher end so your commission will be better than most salons. Tips are great. Looking for someone that is upbeat, positive and enjoys what they do. Must be patient and kind to the dogs and coworkers. Check us out on Facebook or Instagram! There is also an apartment on site that may be available to rent for the right candidate.
TransFURmations Pet Styling Bowtique
transfurmations3025@gmail.com    4/22/20

Lucky Dog Grooming in Old Town Manassas is looking for Full-Time groomer. Minimum of 2 years experience. We are a very busy shop open Monday - Friday by appointment only. No night or weekend hours. Very little customer service required. Very flexible with time off (You only live once! Take that vacation!) Upbeat, team player attitude a must. No Debbie downers need apply! If you think you would be a good fit for this busy shop please give Linda a call at 703-895-4456 or email luckydoggroomingva@gmail.com to set up an interview.  3/10/20

Groomer needed for established salon in Reston. We are looking for someone who is reliable, conscientious, and will treat dogs, clients, and co-workers with kindness, compassion, and respect. We strive to maintain a low stress / low drama environment for the benefit of both ourselves and the dogs, while providing the best service - a clean, good-looking pup - for our customers. Experience required but we are willing to consider a recent graduate as long as you have a solid grooming foundation. FT/PT. Pay is commission with W-2. Email furfactory@comcast.net or call 703- 437-7794   4/29/20

Upscale grooming facility at Shipp’s Corner Pet Spa and Resort is looking for a full/ part time professional groomer. We offer flexible hours (open to discussion) which will need to include one day on the weekend. Must be willing to comfortably groom 6-8 standard breed dogs daily. Shipp’s Corner will provide all shampoos, dryers, and work station; groomer must provide clippers and all other grooming tools. Groomer must have strong customer service skills and must be willing to communicate well with employees and all clientele. All potential applicants please send their resume to included email. Or stop in and apply at 1515 Drakesmile Road Virginia Beach, Va 23453 between the hours of Monday through Friday from 10AM to 5PM

Job Types: Full-time, Part-time
info@shippscornerpetspa.com    4/28/20

Pet Groomer needed. 1 - 3 yrs experience with all breed hand scissoring. Mon-Fri. (possibly Sat), Paid holidays, 1 week vacation & IRA after 1 yr of employment. Hourly wages. Please email japensgroomingsalon@verizon.net. Include resume & photos of work.   4/11/20

Do you love the idea of working on your own with great earning potential and outstanding support behind you?
Join a growing business that can offer a great opportunity for career growth. Woofie's South Riding-Aldie is hiring experienced pet stylists and groomers for our NEW mobile pet spa in the South Riding, Aldie area.

If you are working at a salon this will be a great way to make more money. Enjoy working in the outdoors and connecting one on one with our friendly clientele, we provide full time back office and scheduling support and you'll be able to focus on the pet in your care without the worry of answering phones, scheduling appointments, dealing with walk-in clients, or distractions that come with having other groomers or pets around. Friendly & stress free work environment, no pressure, no drama, it's just you, the pet & music in your van. Hesitant to try mobile grooming? Do a “ride a-long” day with one of our groomers and you will know whether mobile grooming is right for you. Get out of the walls of the salon and make your move to mobile grooming! You won't regret it.

If interested in advancing your career, you will receive tuition-paid , practical, hands-on learning, in the highest standards of grooming, pet safety, and career professionalism combining our 15+ years of experience in the pet care services industry with the knowledge and expertise of the Paragon School of Professional Pet Grooming in exchange for an employment agreement at a Woofie's location.

About Us
We are the premiere luxury pet grooming service operating in Loudoun County Virginia. Our mobile grooming vans are moving salons fully equipped with a stainless steel tub, grooming table, dryers, vacuum, and supplies. They contain their own water supply and generate their own power.

https://www.woofies.com/mobile-pet-spa/
https://www.woofies.com/southriding/join-our-team/

Job Requirements
Good customer service skills and very reliable
Valid driver’s license and clean driving record
Pet grooming experience (1-2 years + strongly preferred).
Must be able to pass and maintain drug and background checks
Able to maintain a clean work environment
Need to have a high work ethic

Salary: $30,000.00 to $50,000/year
jobs@woofiessouthriding.com    2/11/20

Dogma Dog Bakery is looking for a part time or full time groomer to add to our staff of 4. The opening is due to a groomer with 5 years with us moving on to new things. Our retail store is a great source of constant stream of new clients.

One groomer made over $100,000 last year, and our part time groomers make close to $50,000 per year. Our salon is appointment only, cage free, and only those with the well-being of the pet in mind first will be considered.

We are looking for someone willing to work early mornings, or later in the day, every other weekend at a minimum, or if not a Saturday, then Sundays...basically we are flexible with times. Our store is open 7 days a week, grooming can start as early as 7am and some groomers stay as late as 8 pm if they start at 12...the hours you work will be yours to decide, we just need to make sure there is space, the customers will always be there to fill the times. Even now in January we are booked out three weeks, and have a waiting list.

You will be an employee, and we offer health insurance and discounts on food, and supplies.

We have a great team in our grooming area, and in our retail area. Everyone works together to make us all successful. If that is the environment you are looking for, then please email us at shirlington@dogmabakery.com with your interest. We will get back to you right away.   1/27/20

Busy grooming salon in search of an experienced full time groomer. Must be experienced in all breeds. Bather provided. No weekends. Located in western Loudoun County. Round Hill, Virginia 703-772-8538 bluemist19616@aol.com   12/18/19

We are looking to add more members to our team at Woof Gang Bakery and Grooming Arlington. We are still growing and could use a helping hand. Positions available for grooming, bather, and retail associates. Please contact Daniel at arlington@woofgangbakery.com    11/24/19

This is a great opportunity for a groomer looking to up their grooming skills, make excellent money, and work in a low stress environment with teammates who support you. Must have experience grooming and willingness to to continue their education. Must know breed cuts. Candidate must be dependable, reliable, and punctual. Looking for someone who is upbeat with a positive attitude. Exceptional customer service, cleanliness and attention to detail. Must be a team player And able to lift/carry 50 lbs required.

Hours-Days-Schedule: This is a full time or part time position. We can offer flexible hours to be discussed at interview. Please email sageolah@live.com   10/25/19

Looking for an experienced groomer for a busy mobile grooming business. Ernie’s Dog Spa has been catering to dog’s grooming needs for over 7 years. We believe in making the best experience for the dogs, owners, and of course our groomers!! You are guaranteed to fall in love with our 2 and 4 legged clients. Most dogs book on a reoccurring 6 week cycle. Our groomers are W2 Employees that are paid by commission, which is based on your experience in the industry. Also, you keep 100% of your tips which can average $150-$200 additional a week depending on your dog count. Typically you will be grooming Mon-Fri 5-6 dogs per day. Ideally looking for someone with at least 3 years experience with a clean driving record. If you are interested in the position please e-mail your resume to Dina@erniesdogspa.com.   10/24/19

Receptionist / Bather Wanted - Newport News

The Grooming Gallery is looking to add a couple team members to help out with the front desk/receptionist duties and pet bathers. Please contact us in person, by phone 7575-696-1662 or email us at groominggalleryva@gmail.com   10/24/19

The Grooming Gallery in Newport News, VA is looking to add a couple of qualified pet groomers to the team. Please contact us in person, by phone 757-696-1662 or email groominggalleryva@gmail.com.   10/24/19

Dog groomer for our Elite mobile grooming service. Our mobile dog grooming is growing and we are hiring! We have a great team of wonderful groomers and good clients. Must haves: great customer service, solid dog grooming skills, clean driving license and ready to put in good work. We offer unlimited earning potential and help with career growth, continuing education, 401k after 1 year of full time employment and incentives with the goals met. Must be available on Saturdays. Must agree to pre-employment and random drug test. Please email your resume and portfolio to vippetsalon@gmail.com   10/9/19

Presently located in Florida. Experienced groomer of thirty years seeking P/T or F/T position for meet and greet, receptionist assisting in shop. Management, book keeping, general computer and office skills. Willing to relocate for right position. Upbeat positive team player. Prefer under table pay. Please email me crainswitchydragon@gmail.com   9/24/19

Happy Grooming is a family owned and operated since 2009. We are looking for Part-time Experience only (Monday, Tuesday and Thursday). Groomer must have your own tools. We do provide a bather. To Apply please call 703-528-7292 or text at 240-899-2243.    9/19/19

PetMan Grooming
20 Plantation Drive
Suite 105,
Fredericksburg, VA 22406
http://www.petmangrooming.com/contact.html
https://www.facebook.com/PetManGrooming

we are independently owned grooming salon. currently seeking pet stylist. minimum of 2 years of experience, understand about all breeds and breed hair cut. full or part time is available.

Job Types: Full-time, Part-time
Salary: $30,000.00 to $50,000.00 /year
Robert@PetManGrooming.com    9/14/19

We are a busy grooming salon called Old Bridge Grooming Shop located in Woodbridge, VA. We are looking for an experienced groomer that has been grooming full time for at least one year. We will consider someone who has just completed grooming school that shows potential for further learning. Please call Lisa at 703-590-7247.    9/11/19

Looking for a full time Mobile pet groomer for Northern Va and Bethesda Md. Must have experience. Okay with driving unit by yourself. Clean record. Know most common breed cuts. Able to do large breed dogs. No drama. Shows up to work on time. genuisbubbles@gmail.com   9/7/19

We are looking for a groomer with experience to fit into our grooming family. Someone who is not afraid to work and is experienced in all breeds.

Must be kind and gentle with the animals! We are a very busy Grooming Salon and also Mobile. I'm looking for somebody who will fit into our family for many years and someone who doesn't bounce around from shop to shop and is committed to working with us.

We are looking for someone to work 3-5 days a week and must be able to work weekends and holiday seasons. Being flexible is a must, arriving early and/or staying late as needed. We treat our employees very well, keeping in mind that no job is perfect. We make our work environment as comfortable and respectful as possible.

Keep in mind that as the life of a dog groomer goes, we can have also have those crazy stressful days, but we manage to push through the day and get it done and move onto the next day.
Having been a groomer myself, I know what it is like and I treat all my groomers respectfully and do my best to cater to each groomers needs, schedules and personalities.

If you think that person might be you please contact me. Looking forward to meeting the next member of our grooming family!

If you are interested, please contact me and provide your name, phone number, experience and any other relevant details. Petzpawlor@gmail.com 757-549-7729   9/1/19

Happy Grooming is a family owned and operated since 2009. We are looking for Part-time Experience only (Monday, Tuesday and Thursday). Groomer must have your own tools. We do provide a bather. To Apply please call 703-528-7292 or text at 240-899-2243.   9/1/19

Looking for a Part time grooming job in a small but successful grooming shop? Dog Heaven Grooming Spa located in Nokesville (close to Manassas) is looking for you. We are a up and coming grooming salon that is growing fast. You can look us up on Facebook and see what our customers have to say. We are looking for a Groomer with 2 years experience preferred but willing to train the right person with the right aptitude and attitude. Salary will be commensurate with experience. Please feel free to call 703-594-0417 or email us at dogheavengroomingspa@gmail.com.   9/1/19

Busy grooming salon seeks full time groomer.
Must have minimum 3 years of professional grooming experience. We do not have time to train.
Must have own tools.
Must be reliable and live within a decent commuting area.
50% commission w-2 only.

Saturday are mandatory
Tuesday-Saturday.

Call 703-518-3030 or email resume to info@hairysituationsgrooming.com    9/1/19

Star Dog Salon is looking for someone kind, caring, and responsible hard worker that loves to work with animals!
-3 years or more experience in grooming
-Ability to work with all dog breed types
-Communicate with clients on special requests and instructions for grooming
-Must provide own equipment
-Hourly pay starts at $15 +tips
-Working time: Tues-Sat, 9-5
Job Type: Full-time
Salary: $15.00 /hour

Please text Sara for more information, thank you!
703-507-6766 Stardogsalon@gmail.com   9/1/19

Focus on grooming with full office support when you join the Woofie’s Leesburg team!

Bathers & Pet stylists wanted!

-flexible hours
-pet service discounts
-pet CPR & first aid training
-part- & full-time openings
-must be at least 18 years old
-valid driver’s license required
-walk into a busy schedule

katherine.bhat@woofiesleesburg.com   9/1/19

Seeking FT groomer to join busy veterinary practice. Strong clientele base in affluent area. Willing to consider either salaried position with benefits or commission compensation based position. Must be experienced and have excellent communication skills. Friendly and performance oriented are a must. Veterinary practice is #1 in the county with excellent reputation and the right person will step into an opportunity for success! Please send your application to hiring@leeburgvet.com   9/12/19

I am searching for an experienced Full time Groomer to take over my shop. I am looking to relocate and have built a successful grooming shop in a space I rent from an awesome Veterinarian Office. I am booked out 30 days and consistently stay busy. I turn away business that I do not have room for. I groom 6-7 dogs alone and up to 11 on days I have a bather. Offering higher percentage for maintaining my shop. Can be a rent to own opportunity. marti@pawspagrooming.com   9/1/19

We are currently looking for one full and one part time pet Bather. We are a family owned and operated grooming salon that has been serving the Tidewater area for the past 13 years. We are looking for someone that can get along well with others and can be a team player. We are looking for someone that has at least 1-2 years experience and is comfortable handling all breeds. You must have reliable transportation and be able to work weekends. If you feel that this is the job for you, we would love to meet you! kngdmakitas@yahoo.com   9/1/19

We are currently looking for one full and one part time groomer. We are a family owned and operated grooming salon that has been serving the Tidewater area for the past 13 years. We are looking for someone that can get along well with others and can be a team player. We are looking for someone that has at least 1-2 years experience and is comfortable doing breed cuts and handling all breeds. The new groomer must be dependable and have reliable transportation. If you feel that this is the job for you, we would love to meet you! kngdmakitas@yahoo.com   9/1/19

New up and coming grooming salon Looking to find an experienced groomer for a high end salon in Short Pump. Across the street from Short Pump Mall. Must have at least 2-3 years experience and some experience with Asian fusion grooming, and coloring a plus! Commission based pay. This is part time that can become full time in the future as the business grows. Come be a part of something really special. Send resume and grooming portfolio to reneespetstyles@gmail.com   9/1/19

Happy Grooming is looking for an experienced all breed dog groomer for a locally owned and operated in Arlington, Virginia. Must have own tools. We do provide a bather. Must be great with animals and people. To apply please call Ann at 240-899-2243 or 703-528-7292.   9/1/19

Woofie's (Reston Herndon) is bringing mobile grooming to Reston and Herndon in Northern Virginia and is searching for the perfect candidate to join our team!
Email- petservices@woofiesrh.com
Phone- 703-719-4170
Online- https://www.woofies.com/restonherndon/contact-woofies/join-our-team/    9/1/19

Dog Groomers needed to support a growing clientele in Ashburn, VA. Experienced groomers needed to work full or part time in a new business located in Brambleton Town Center. Must be able to wash, dry, and cut all breeds of dogs. Sign on bonus paid for qualified groomers with some restrictions. Contact 703-327-9600 for more information.   9/28/19

Established pet care business is seeking an experienced groomer to independently perform full grooming services for all breeds of dogs. Must be knowledgeable of different breed haircuts, love working with pets, and be able to communicate well with pet owners. Experience required! Please provide references.

Three Oaks Pet Resort
2740 Layne St Ext
Farmville, VA 23901
434-392-4738
threeoakspetresort@gmail.com    9/1/19

Looking for experienced pet groomers! dogkrazyleesburg@gmail.com   9/1/19

Pet Stylist needed for a very busy, award winning salon in Arlington, VA. We are also hiring for our newer location in Reston. This is a 50% W-2 position. We are looking for a gentle, experienced pet stylist to join our team who is able to groom any size and breed. We are a retail boutique store that offers cage-free, by appointment only grooming. We offer a very flexible schedule; however we would like someone available on at least one weekend day. Evenings are in high demand as an option but are not required. Hand stripping and cat grooming experience would be a plus, but is not required.

If you are interested in the position; please give us a call at Dogma Dog Bakery and Boutique and ask for McKenna. The number is 571-422-0370 you can also email your portfolio to McKenna.Posey@gmail.com   9/1/19

Old Dominion Animal Health Center, a state of the art medical facility in McLean, VA, is looking for an experienced groomer available for a part-time position, with the potential to be full-time in the future. Our facility offers boarding, bathing, grooming, doggie day care, rehabilitation, as well as a full service animal hospital. We are looking for a candidate who is hands on and can cater to our grooming clients' every need. Professionalism and a good attitude are a must!

Position Requirements:
-2 years' minimum grooming experience
-Customer service experience
-References
-Some weekends
-Reliable

For more information please call Cherish at 703-356-5582 or email resume. cherish@odahcenter.com    9/1/19

Groomer needed, Experienced in all breeds & hand scissoring. we are willing to train the right grooming school graduate. Must work Tue through Sat. bather provided. if interested please send resume to japensgroomingsalon@verizon.net   9/3/19

Happy Grooming is looking for an experienced all breed dog groomer for a locally owned and operated in Arlington, Virginia. Must have own tools. We do provide a bather. Must be great with animals and people. To apply please call ann at 240-899-2243 or 703-528-7292.   8/31/19

Kennel Assistant/ Bather needed in busy dog grooming salon
Position is part time or full time depending on your availability.
Duties include but not limited to:
Bathing and fluffing dogs
Laundry
Cleaning (mopping, trash etc.)
Giving dogs water and taking out for bathroom
Sanitizing crates
Must be comfortable with dogs and MUST BE RELIABLE!
Transportation must not be an issue.
Hours are daily but vary based on business.
SATURDAY'S ARE A MUST, but know you will ALWAYS have Sunday and Monday off.
Experience with bathing is NECESSARY. we will not respond to resumes without a recent experience.
Must be 18 or older.
Serious inquiries only
We drug test.
Job Types: Full-time, Part-time
info@hairysituationsgrooming.com    8/3119

We are seeking an experienced Groomer to join our team. This is an outstanding opportunity for a highly motivated Groomer to capitalize on our established clientele. Excellent animal handling and client service skills are required, along with strong knowledge in grooming techniques of all breeds of dogs and cats. Ideal candidates are excited about our clients and their pets. They are willing to go the extra mile to ensure their pets have the most successful and stress-free visit.

Responsibilities and Duties
•Perform grooming services, delighting our clients and pets, including brushing, bathing, and conditioning of animals.
•Groom and style pets based on pet owner instructions and requests. Follow standard procedures and breed standards.
•Approach and greet pet parents with a friendly and professional demeanor
•Drive client satisfaction by developing long-term relationships sharing product knowledge, and suggesting products and services as needed.
•Be prepared to assist veterinary staff with medical baths and medical grooming as needed.
•Perform routine cleaning of the grooming area to keeping our environment inviting.

About Us

We are a 24 hour, full-service hospital located in South Riding, Virginia. We are a state-of-the-art veterinary center, specializing in the care of dogs and cats. We pride ourselves in offering an advanced and customized level of veterinary medicine to each patient, and thorough, detailed communication with every client.
This is an amazing opportunity if you are driven to learn and continually evolve to the ever-changing gold standards of veterinary medicine. We encourage you to view our website at www.dullesvets.com for a list of our services and additional contact information. Please send resumes to kgrundy@dullesvets.com 
Job Type: Full-time
Salary: Salary is negotiable, based on experience   8/31/19

Exp. pet groomer needed in 30+year grooming salon in Virginia beach. Must have experience in all breeds. Must know how to hand scissor. Must be able to workb5 days a week and Saturday is a must. We pay 50% commission. Call or visit Noah's Ark pet grooming .757-486-1768.   8/31/19

Compensation: Commission Pay
Employment type: full-time

Great opportunity to work at an established Pet Grooming Salon in Hampton We are seeking an enthusiastic, dependable, and a team-orientated groomer for in shop and mobile grooming to provide high quality pet grooming services, customer service, and help to continue our growing grooming salon.

The qualified candidate will:
-Be kind and gentle with all dogs
-Have great communication skills with clients and team members
- Experience with all dog breeds- Great scissor skills- Have pictures of work
- Ability to work on all sized dogs
- Maintain a safe, stable and clean work environment at all times
- Ability to provide a full grooming service that includes bathing, drying, cutting and nail clipping and anal expression for dogs of all breeds and sizes
- Minimum of two years of experience as a groomer/stylist
We are an established shop business and stay busy year round and have a great work environment. Groomers are expected to provide their own clippers and other necessary equipment. Being drug is a requirement.

*If this sounds like you, PLEASE WRITE A COVER LETTER AND SEND OVER YOUR RESUME ! Also, photos of your work would be helpful. critterkleaner@yahoo.com   8/31/19

Scruff to Fluff is looking for a reliable pet groomer for part-time or full-time employment. We are located in Mechanicsville, Virginia and are about 20 minutes away from Southside, Richmond and Westend. This is commission-based employment with benefits available for a full-time employee. All dogs will be bathed for you. Hours are 8-5 Monday-Friday, 8-2 Saturdays. The shop is closed on Wednesdays and Sundays. Please send inquiries and photos to ScrufftoFluffVA@gmail.com. You may also call the shop at 804-774-6226.  8/31/19

Pet Supplies Plus is Hiring Groomers

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Does your dog have a closet full of clothes? Is your cat so cool he needs to wear shades? We call that "petcentricity!" If you enjoy making pets look adorable and smell irresistible, then come work in our neighborhood! As a Groomer at Pet Supplies Plus, you're passionate about people and their pets. Pet Supplies Plus offers these plusses and more:

1. ● Competitive pay
2. ● Benefits eligibility for full-time groomers
3. ● Employee discounts...even with a coupon
4. ● Neighborly and supportive teams
5. ● Cool, creative and unordinary workplace

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